A WRONG MISCONCEPTION OF THE DE THOUARS. By the magus of Denver.

I am here to set my record straight of the thumb s****** stories told by students of the Reeders system that Arthur Sikes was making claims that Willem Reeders taught de Thouars brothers our martial systems. Was totally false because we as bothers have our own lineage. Arthur Sikes may have been older my age but he was born in America, and taught kun tao in America of the later years. I was born in the Dutch East Indies and trained to study Serak, old hand kun tao and the old school sialt from 1946 on to the later years. Kun tao and silat was never heard of then; before it became a household item anywhere else on the planet. Respectfully I was never interested in the Liu Seong or Reeders kun tao system since I had my own Hakka kun tao teachers. Pioneers of kun tao in America were several others beside Willem Reeders like lie gai Edgar van der Groen, sifu Otto van der Groen, myself and a few others requesting me not to mention their names. These folks are the nearest to me as friends likewise the van der Groens.  Also with respect was never close to Willem Reeders although had known him from the Dutch East Indies. Our families knew each other outside the b*******.
  It was upsetting to me after I read Chris derbaum book on the subject of kun tao was just half interestingly good. As he wrote that Willem Reeders was teaching Serak before any of the de Thouars brothers --named me on the bottom of the list. Sorry man in diapers your history on the subject need a refresher course. . Reeders may had taught some technical values but was never teaching any of the curriculum or the platform of jurus and langkas as we in the de Thouars. Reeders was a training partner of Ventje de Vries who shared Serak for kun tao. NOT ALL KUN TAO SYSTEMS are THE SAME IN WHAT Chris derbaum like to practice, and not all kun tao has the same forms. I respect what the followers of Willem Reeders are doing with their kun tao but I remain to stay my own kun tao in practice and in training. Why we need to stay apart and can never be friends. I already had to experience some of the followers of Willem Reeders and is not what I wish to be around them --they are very abusive with their kun tao slapping were not slapping me around. I will counter them immediately to play their own game. Chris derbaum through my viewing found his seminar in France a total fiasco. I like to give credit to the female that slapped Chris back as he did to all who were present at the seminar.   He was suckering and  slapping the willing to learn students with brute force. Those brutalized stupid slapping considered by some as kilap blows, I know some refined ones that does more internally damage. Chris in my backroom will go home limping with his kun tao slapping. He is not totally in law enforcement for a prison guard.  That youngster has a lot to learn about old hand kun tao. I consider him a self serving egotistical maniac. Johnny Vomito come to see me again, I will share my kilap slapping with him and on him. I hate abusers liking to sucker in people to be on the receiving end the least expecting to be slap around. Training become b******* training. Bad for the real kun tao without the ma bu stances. I want you to hate me for my opinion in writing, and also more power to you. I write because I am forced to write by defending the de Thouars.
Willem de Thouars, the magus of Denver.